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Old 08-18-2009, 07:16 PM
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Leaps in soloing

I'm having a bit of trying to get out of a rut with my soloing at the moment. In particular, I'm trying to add the use of larger leaps into my repetoir. Generally right now, incorperating leaps has become a challenge. I'm not sure if it is how I go about playing them (should the be smoothly laid into the solo) or if I'm doing them wrong.

One technique I'm using is octave. For simplicity sake, I will be playing C minor pentatonic and after playing a couple of licks, I land on C and then quickly move up an octave (quickly switching to C).

Other leaps I have tried are throwing in p5s (don't sound that interesting imho but spice things up) and consonant intervals. Personally, I'm interested in working on bluesy type leaps (that you would hear in something like Clapton or Mayer or Trucks) that I can throw in. Also, I'm interested in both ways, so leaping up and down techniques would be best. Any help on how I should apporoach these and what intervals I should play would be great,

best wishes all
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Old 08-19-2009, 07:51 AM
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I found the following paper interesting.
http://www.archive.org/stream/exercisesinmelo01goetgoog
In a nut shell the first 30 or so pages:
Two close notes no more distant than a tone then a skip of at least a 3rd. What you land on then seems to be the important fact., i.e. if you land on the tonal center notes 1-3-5 feel free to move up scale or down scale as the 1-3-5 are tonal center notes and thus happy anywhere.

The 4, 6 and 7 notes however, are wanting to resolve to the tonic and have a set way they like to do this so........
If you land on a 7th go up scale and start the process over.
If you land on a 4 or 6 go down scale to start the process.
If you land on a 2 - the book was not clear (in the part I finished), but it's kinda left up to you.

Two short steps followed by a skip - then depending on what you land on governs what you do next.

http://www.archive.org/stream/exercisesinmelo01goetgoog
Check out chapter 3.

Course if you JUST do that over and over it too will sound the same, I think it's the distance of the skip that is important. Vary the distance, don't land on the same interval. Mix this in with what you are already doing should give you something new.

Have fun.

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Old 08-19-2009, 02:18 PM
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Thank you very much for your response.

In relation to your resolution of a 2nd (re) sol fej usually resolves that it can resolve to either do or mi (1 or 3) so it is your choice.

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Old 11-22-2009, 05:26 AM
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I find sliding helpful.
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In improvising within a modal context, a musician would basically start by thinking about playing the notes within that specific mode (e.g., D Dorian: D, E, F, G, A, B, C, D). - wikipedia "modal jazz" article
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"In its most conventional sense, tonality refers to just the major and minor scale types - scales whose elements are capable of maintaining a consistent set of functional relationships." - A. Milne
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Old 03-04-2010, 08:45 PM
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Amended:

Sliding helps give you the right musical feel and puts you in the right frame of mind.

When you leap in one direction you generally want to come back in the opposite direction.

In and of itself that seems a bit mechanical and strange at first.

That's why geting your feel on can help you to get a better understanding of the concept, imho.
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In improvising within a modal context, a musician would basically start by thinking about playing the notes within that specific mode (e.g., D Dorian: D, E, F, G, A, B, C, D). - wikipedia "modal jazz" article
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"In its most conventional sense, tonality refers to just the major and minor scale types - scales whose elements are capable of maintaining a consistent set of functional relationships." - A. Milne
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